Which Better Explains Reality, Atheism Or Theism?

By: Curtis Ophoven 0 Comments   5/24/2013

It was just a few months ago that world famous Atheist Richard Dawkins lost a debate with Dr. Rowan Williams, regarding the usefulness of religion.  

The debate was lost by way of the attending students' vote on the debate.  We wrote about this interesting debate back in February.

Now a few weeks ago, another interested debate has taken place between Frank Turek (author of “I don’t have enough faith to be an Atheist”) and David Silverman (President of American Atheist Ass.).

The title of the 2+ hour debate was, “Which better explains reality, Atheism or Theism?”

Here is the complete video of the debate.

This is a very good debate, well organized and moderated.  Dave does a pretty good job, not in explaining reality or in refuting the evidence for God in reality, but in revealing the true nature of Atheism by asking two questions that seem to stump Frank about evil and justice.


1.       Dave asked, “If God is good, then why are babies born with Cancer?”

2.       Dave asked, “If God is all knowing, then why put the tree of good and evil in the garden knowing that man would sin resulting in billions going to hell?”

Now before Dave asked these questions the debate was clearly being won by Frank.

Frank was well prepared and delivered an excellent presentation of the clear evidence for God in the world which we live, which Dave could not refute.   In fact Frank did such a good job, that Dave had to change the discussion and that is what Frank could have been better prepared for, knowing that the questions Dave asked are at the foundation of a mind that rejects God.

By moving to these questions, Dave is saying that he does not really care if the evidence proves that God exists, because his anger towards God is blocking him from looking at the evidence.  The evidence tells us something about God and someone angry at God does not want to know anything about him.  The real reason Dave rejects God is because he does not like who he thinks God is – unjust and evil.

At this point in the discussion, Frank goes back to the evidence for God, pointing out that Dave’s reasoning to ignore the evidence is unreasonable and irrational – blind faith – the exact thing that Atheists say about those that believe in God.

To put your faith is something that is against the clear evidence is the essence of Frank’s book, “I don’t have enough faith to be an Atheist”.

Dave unwillingness to look at the evidence reveals that his real issue is that he has set his mind against God no matter what the evidence shows - because his heart is hardened against God.   

Put another way, in the middle of this seemingly “intellectual” debate, Dave reveals that the real reason for rejecting God is not intellectual but emotional.  Dave’s issue is in his heart, which refuses to let his mind believe in the truth.

An Imagined World

Frank basically shows that Atheism is a platform of imagination unsupported by evidence.  It is a manmade idea created by those that don’t like the present reality, which points to God.   On top of that, since God created everything the only things available for man to reason with are things of this world which are things of God. 

Atheism has to build their ideas with ideas that God created, which is self-defeating.  There is no reasoning that does not lead to God, so the task to come up with reasoning that leads away from God is impossible.  They are left talking in circles as Dave does in this debate. 

Imagine a world in which the fingerprints of God are not all over, that is Atheism – but no such world exists.

Hard Questions

The hard questions that Dave asked reveal the real reason why he refuses to acknowledge God.  The first question was;  

“If God is good, then why are babies born with Cancer?”

Dave is asking why does God allows decease and death to happen to someone that has not been alive long enough to sin?  The Bible answers this question.  The reason that God is not the villain because he allows babies to have cancer is because God did not bring decease and death into the world – man did.

“Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned" - Romans 5:12”

The consequence of Adam’s sin causes all of us born after him to be born into sin and death.  Jesus Christ came to earth for this very reason.  He came to undo what Adam did. He came to free us from the sin we are born into.

"Consequently, just as one trespass resulted in condemnation for all people, so also one righteous act resulted in justification and life for all people. For just as through the disobedience of the one man many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man (Jesus Christ) many will be made righteous." - Romans 5:18-19”

The second question Dave asks was;

“If God is all knowing, then why put the tree of good and evil in the garden knowing that man would sin and billions of people would end up in hell?"

Dave is saying, if it is not God’s fault for disease and death in the world but man’s, then why did God give man the opportunity to sin in the first place?

The Bible also has a very good answer to this question.

It is true that God knew man would sin and bring death upon himself, so the question before this question is why did he create man at all, knowing they would sin?  The reason is because God had a plan to save man from sin. He had a plan before he even created the world.

“For you know that it was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed from the empty way of life handed down to you from your ancestors, but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or defect. He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake.” – 1 Peter 1:18-20

Not only did God know that man would sin and bring disease and death upon all of mankind, God also knew that the only way to save man would be to sacrifice the life of his own Son, so that justice would be served for those that believe in him. 

God foreknew that if he created mankind, he would have to send his one and only Son to live as a man and suffer an unjust death – a death he did not deserve.  Who would do that?  Why would God create a people that would cost him the life of his Son?

“… the Lamb who was slain from the creation of the world” – Revelation 13:8

It would take a God of tremendous love to willingly sacrifice of his own Son to create humanity. And this is what the scripture tells us.

“For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.” – John 3:16

So God didn’t put the tree of good and evil in the garden in order to send people to hell, he put the tree there so that some would be saved – which he foreknew would cost him the life of his Son.

The next time you run into an Atheists and have an “intellectual” discussion, keep these answers in mind because as soon as they realize that reality reveals God, they will turn to the real reason they choose not to believe in God – someone deceived them into thinking that they should be angry with God because God is a villain.


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